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Excellent.

Meanwhile, in a 2006 questionnaire for Alaska’s gubernatorial race:

Question: Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

Palin: “Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.”

Fun part: The Pledge of Allegiance was not written until 1892 and the words “under God” were added in 1954.

More fun, the pledge of allegiance was written by Christian Socialist Francis Bellamy. We all know how fond the Republicans are of Socialists.

Trudy,

Congress passed the Fourth Coinage Act of February 12, 1873, which started the inscribing of IN GOD WE TRUST on U.S. currency.

Also, the opening paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, written in 1776 by our Founding Fathers, reads: "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal." This statement almost certainly implies the belief in a Divine Creator. The words "Creator, God, Supreme Judge and Divine Providence" are mentioned in other places within the Declaration of Independence.

However, I am neither a McCain nor an Obama supporter, as I am neither a socialist facist nor a communist facist. I am writing in Ron Paul for President, and I am writing in Christopher Young for U.S. Senate this November.

John

However, Palin was being asked about the Pledge of Allegiance, about which she obviously had no clue, since she thinks it originated with the Founding Fathers, and didn't know that the Under God phrase was added two hundred years after the founding of the country.

(As a side remark, let's pause briefly and acknowledge that there were Founding Mothers, like Abigail Adams.)

As to the religious beliefs of the Founders of the country, one often hears, esp. from the right, that the Founding Fathers were Christian and so the U.S. is "a Christian nation."

This is in fact incorrect, as you probably know. A number of the Founding Fathers - Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin, among others - were Deists, which means they believed in a God, but not in Jesus as God, etc.

Also, the Treaty of the U.S. with Tripoli, which was passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate in 1797 and signed by President John Adams includes: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion". At that time, many of the members of Congress were still people who had been involved in the actual founding of the country.

So I think it’s pretty clear that regardless of their personal beliefs, the Founders clearly meant the separation of church and state that’s in the Bill of Rights.

Trudy...you are wasting so much energy on hating Sarah. Every post I read from you has you banging her for anything! Get over it...you're a lib and you're full of hate for someone you don't even know! Typical. Face it, she is getting under all your skins and it is so much fun to watch the implosion!! Keep it up!!

Trudy, too bad you and your fellow libs don't grill Nobama as much or as deep as you do for Sarah. Mis-stating the "under God" in the Pledge does not compare to Nobama's association with Reszko, Ayers and Wright. Give me a break!! By the way, wasn't this a story about that dope Whitehouse going to NH?? Maybe you should consider anger management classes.

Very nice chart at the Washington Post showing the difference between the McCain and Obama tax cut plans:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

"Obama's plan gives the biggest cuts to those who make the least, while McCain would give the largest cuts to the very wealthy."

According to the chart, everyone with an income below $111,645 would do better taxwise with Obama.